tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8155430126361745390.post4112998119147740690..comments2023-08-25T05:49:55.579-07:00Comments on the neo: Culture Clash in Harlem.shani-ohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16155906560260556058noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8155430126361745390.post-41348256259344315852008-07-11T09:39:00.000-07:002008-07-11T09:39:00.000-07:00I don't think it is a racist issue. I think the sa...I don't think it is a racist issue. I think the same people would have an issue if ravers were in the park blasting techno at all hours of the night.<BR/><BR/>However, it is both naive and disrespectful to think that your neighborhood should change for you. That would be like me moving to Queens and being mad at the mariachi blasting from every radio. Or moving to Boston and having issue with Irish pubs. Part of the reason you select your neighborhood is because there is something there that represents and resonates with you. You move there to be a part of it, not to change it. If you can't comfortably be a part of your community, goddammit just move. Don't break down a positive 40 year tradition because it isn't fitting with your buppie on a budget lifestyle.Lahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16263956941852080340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8155430126361745390.post-12950537234600161462008-07-11T07:54:00.000-07:002008-07-11T07:54:00.000-07:00@ Uptown: Really? Tell me more about the downtown...@ Uptown: Really? Tell me more about the downtowners who complain about uptown. Are they having trouble adjusting to the different culture there?<BR/><BR/>@ Jam: I was being serious. If black people are leaving the neighborhood, and the new people coming in don't like it the local traditions, then why should they put up with it? How can we expect them to, if the people who would fight for the traditions are leaving? Things don't stay the same forever.<BR/><BR/>@ LH: That's why I can kind of understand where the new tenants are coming from. The racist bit, of course, turns it into something about white vs. black, rather than quiet vs. loud.<BR/><BR/>@Adei: Like I said to Jameil, what if Harlem isn't Harlem anymore? (And word to the waking up the neighborhood. Loudness is like rhythm. We don't all have it, but most of us do, lol.)<BR/><BR/>@Joy: that's what I was wondering. If you were moving into an expensive apartment in a neighborhood you're not familiar with, wouldn't you check out the area on a Saturday night?shani-ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16155906560260556058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8155430126361745390.post-60860573722344547952008-07-10T23:52:00.000-07:002008-07-10T23:52:00.000-07:00Didn't the agent say, "and also, we have a festive...Didn't the agent say, "and also, we have a festive cultural drumming session every Saturday"? And if she didn't, um, sorry but the drummers are better than getting robbed. Why did you choose to move to Harlem? Culture and personality. Its not a white picket fence place.the joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802618412868607142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8155430126361745390.post-43390418451129404372008-07-10T18:21:00.000-07:002008-07-10T18:21:00.000-07:00gentrification. not a fan.girl, my mom would wake ...gentrification. not a fan.<BR/><BR/>girl, my mom would wake the neighborhood up talking to fellow Ghanians! when I was in GA for the 4th, I forgot how loud my friends moms are, too!<BR/><BR/>i think if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. you can't move to harlem and expect it to be scranton or seattle. holla backAdei von Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03660249144472518152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8155430126361745390.post-47822122023660016172008-07-10T17:57:00.000-07:002008-07-10T17:57:00.000-07:00The drummers need to go. Street musicians are char...The drummers need to go. Street musicians are charming until you live in areas where they perform. Blacks may or may not be a loud people (I suspect the former to be so), but the only people who should have to deal with that are those who do so willingly.The Breaking Pointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12465734840680769635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8155430126361745390.post-52546938733129274352008-07-10T15:59:00.000-07:002008-07-10T15:59:00.000-07:00"does a 30-year-old drum circle have a place if th..."does a 30-year-old drum circle have a place if the people who loved and appreciated it are no longer there? And are we asking too much of the new neighbors to adopt the habits of the neighborhood?" i'm sure that was tongue-in-cheek. move for the "flava?" ta da! how is it that you come into someone's neighborhood and tell them "yeah forget tradition, this is what you're NOT gonna do from now on." and let's not get into the whole racial issues connotated by the implication that the black folk should be quiet b/c the white folk say so. yeah right. the drummers stay.Jameilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242625946552047911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8155430126361745390.post-37666797131023545222008-07-10T12:57:00.000-07:002008-07-10T12:57:00.000-07:00Very thoughtful piece. We've been exploring both ...Very thoughtful piece. We've been exploring both these issue over on my blog as well. While we've all been "victims" of noise abuse, we can also sympathize with the drummer who are out enjoying themselves on a Saturday afternoon. We've reach the conclusion that if perhaps the circle were a couple of hours each week as opposed to the excessive 5 or more hours, it wouldn't have escalated to the point of bringing the "man" into the pic. In the back of my mind I feel the "downtowners" complain anyway since they tend to complain about everything in Harlem.<BR/><BR/>www.uptownflavor.comuptownflavorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13709357493406094515noreply@blogger.com